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Thanks for giving it a second chance Rowland, I appreciate it. the dead giveaway of guider issues is the amount of motion between guider calibration steps. If it something like 1 or 2 pixels of motion, something is preventing PRISM from actually moving the mount. I had an EQ8 and ran beautifully wit...

Hi Rowland and welcome to the family. I would like to point out that I appreciate it very much how you answered your question. I will put notes in red below: Calibration parameters - I have tried with 10 and 20 seconds: http://tourstar.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/cal-params.jpg I suspect that the...

it is a way to distinguish which is Camera 1 and 2.

the information in this thread has been forwarded, thanks for passing it along.

I am assuming you are using the automatic observation to capture these images?

It sounds like a folder permission problem, are you trying to save over a network ?

I will contact you offline.

correct, if you use PRISM to calculate the geometry then you need to zero out the same geometry field in POTH and vice versa. Give it a try and report back please.

Are the geometry settings set in both PRISM and POTH? if so, it'll never work as the correction are doubled up. Can you please verify?

Can you please post an actual image of the dome setup in PRISM and POTH please? I think this can be resolved easily.

Ron If equipment does not work, it hardly the software's problem in most cases. User error is a huge factor wether it be knowingly or not. There are a few very advanced amateurs that discovered comets and asteroids using the same PRISM you have without a hitch. There is nothing special about it at a...

Excellent suggestion Dick and I thank you for that, I will reach out to him, he is an excellent gentleman.

Glad you're loving it Ron, I appreciate all the feedback

what does ASCOM say when you try and connect it that way? can you ensure your reinstalled the driver after the wipe.

you need to go to settings > Default observing site and make sure it is set up right for your location. The skychart needs to match the main software's time and date otherwise you risk destroying your equipment. Other software won't even give you this warning.

Thanks, it will be fixed.

if your registry is broken, it might cause a lot of problems.

it is quite a problem to delete files it "thinks" are viruses when we scan PRISM with 70 different antivirus programs ourselves and it comes out clean, of course

the best way to get it connected is to choose the second option from the chooser and then select "COM/ ActiveX interface". PRISM will find it automatically and connect to it.

your rectangle is fine and that should calibrate correctly. typically, when the circles join at the end means that your system is calibrated properly and you have minimal backlash

Ron wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:20 pm
you didn't read or answer anything I asked = ( I didn't ask about a crash.
Thats ok, I've worn out my welcome. = (

incorrect.

All your issues I will address and more, I just don't want this forum to stray like other ones do. I would like to stay objective so I can help you the most efficient way. I even offer remote help when people need it. You are more welcome here than anywhere else, I appreciate the lengthy reports and...

when a crash happens, the skychart that opens is the default one. All you have to do is close that one and open a new one.

Hi Dick

you bet, it is on the todo list for PRISN 11.

PRISm is reading what your driver is telling it. If you tell PRISM to park your dome North, it will do just that: tell your driver to go North. Please enable the log and post it here of the action happening.

hope I am not misunderstanding, you can just open the file using CTRL+O and then select all of them if you wish. this is how to "open" files in PRISM

please post a screenshot on how you set up the cloud watcher in the hardware section.

Your software time and date need to match your sky charts time and date, I have explained this very well in my videos. There is nothing wrong with PRISM. Also, you need to consolidate your posts to only talk about the thread your created for them. If I didn't hate SGP so much I'd have given up long ...

well done Ron, you are up and guiding. that guiding is good since the most important numbers are the RMS in the calibration window. You can can change aggressiveness on the fly in there as well in the controls tab.

if they are fits, then yes they will import correctly.

who you get the resulting parallelogram from the calibration step, please post an image here as well as the table that shows the direction and distance.

yes save as default and it will restart the same way every time.

people are too busy imaging Ron, this is a good thing.

well, it looks like you got it. the second number is altitude, 0 is north and 90 is straight up

enabling logging in the POTH driver is a good idea to see what is happening

1. It is sometimes "evident" PRISM is doing something wrong but it almost is never the case. In doubt, use the POTH driver and enable logging to see exactly what is going on with your dome controller. 2. If your steps come out around less than 1 pixel that probably means you setup your guiding ST4 w...

just adjust the high and low cuts until you find the setting you like, those numbers can be changed

Hi Ron and welcome to the family PRISM is a different program from pretty much everything you have used so far and you need to get acclimated as anything else in life. 1. For the display of your images, PRISM uses "cutoffs", you can set it up here: Settings > software settings > Image display > Stel...

1) No, the successful calibration is kept until it is replaced by another successful one 2) No. Make sure you are sufficient exposure length to get bright stars in the frame, it is dark enough as well as enough calibration time for Ra and Dec. I don't suspect anything has changed on PRISM's side if ...

Let me see if I can upload a PDF version, check the downloads sections of the site periodically or I'll just announce here

it is available in the downloads section of the main site here: https://www.hyperion-astronomy.com/pages/contact-1

Hello Steve, We did take a look at the logs and it seems that it is a feature to be implemented. However, I have added a USB GPS to my system and PRISM can actually adjust your PC's time to the exact time every so many seconds. My question is as follows: will this be accurate enough for your applica...

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Hi Lukas

It is actually not DDP so your data is not "stretched", it is just high and low cutoffs that you can control in the settings. It is here: Settings > Software settings > Image display.
You can experiment with this until you find the best display settings that you like

How is you progress with modeling your 10micron Mount with PRISM? I would like your input for future reference for our users.

from the looks of it, one of these axes is reversed. I say this because you are supposed to come back to the original location. Let me investigate a little further.

Welcome to the forum. PRISM comes with two main activations to begin with to safeguard our investment against abuse, and it has happened. For extra computer, we offer a USB activation on the website you can purchase to take with you if you wish. Whichever computer you plug it into, activates PRISM a...

If you tell PRISM what the actual temperature chance is in steps over how many degrees, I can manage this for you. However, if you have your driver do this, it is not advised to enter it in PRISM as well. As for refocus on temp change in the automatic observation, this function is not available at t...

Dave It does happen that a problem is temporary, I have the example of a bad ASCOM driver for the filterwheel where you end up with 40 filters instead of the 7 I have. This is not something that we can help with since it is outside the scope of PRISM. Has anybody else have the same issue on the net ...

sorry about the late response. Nikon support is planned for a future release and PRISM typically handles raw DSLR formats natively. NIKON file formats can be utilized in PRISM to be processed for example

Glad to help, now share your images with us

typically it is Dec backlash that causes problems, guider calibration is quite straightforward and can only be done one time unless you rotate or change your guider. Just increase the calibration time in Dec and you should be fine. set the RA calibration to 10 seconds and dec to 20.

You can set it with the mount connected in the Mount control window when it opens. After you do that, go to settings > software setup management > save software setup to database registry . This will save all your settings.

That seems iike an ASCOM problem, PRISM can only read what it is provided. One example of this that my own atik EF3 filterwheel displays, sometimes, 40 filters whereas I only have 7. Can you please reinstall ASCOM and see if it helps.

Please give us some visuals to go on, screenshots would be best.

please provide some screenshots of your guider settings and the calibration output image showing the parallelogram. Thanks

I don't see the attached file Steve, can you just send it to me to hyperion.astronomy@gmail.com instead? Also, after speaking with Cyril about this, he did clarify that ASCOM might not have the GPS property in it, can you please run the camera using its native driver. Under hardware, choose QHY inst...

Vikrant is correct, make sure PRSIM's main folders are in your scanner's exemption list. As these virus scanners update their databases, a few files get flagged as harmful but these are falls positives as you said. We scan PRISM with 70 scanners and it comes back clean ( of course it does

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Hi Steve. In this instance we will need the log file of your session, you can activate this by going to observatory then log file. Just enable the log file by check in the box at the top left. Restart Prism and go through the steps just like you would normally then shut down present. Your log files ...

I need screenshots and the automatic observation log, it does sound like a centroiding error.

Hi. PRISM only uses filter offsets because it is the most efficient way to focus. Customers with 3nm Ha filters and the like might find it difficult to focus.

it can fail for a whole slew of reasons including ( but not limited to) : stars are too big, seeing is horrible, you're further than 5 degrees from the reported Ra and Dec. It is great that astrometry.net was designed as a failover

Awesome report Kevin, kepp them coming. To your questions: 1. That only applied to actual targets. SAy you pick on that sets before another one rises, PRISM is asking what you want to do here. Stopping tracking is the best avenue. 2. The guide exposure is decided when you choose your targets, there ...

You're correct, it is a matter of having the right format. How big is this list?

Hi Mike and thanks for joining us 1. PRISM can model 10micron mount natively if you put them in "learn" mode. Unfortunately, I cannot produce a video tutorial about is since I do not have access to a 10Micron myself. We have not undated the documentation to reflect these new features, but will. As f...

The truth of the matter is, when you write over a million lines of code, you are bound to overlook a thing or two. This is where our users become invaluable. Thanks for pointing that out, I will take note of it

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Verbiage can enhanced, but you get the concept.

It is normal that the EQMOD confirms what we advanced since it is what is a happening here. PRISM pulls the different speeds from your mount's driver, these need to be set there. If 800x causes the noise, try lowering it. This goes for all other speeds you can adjust.

There are multiple options in PRISM of course, here are some screenshots. This is a graphical comparison what different formats produce: File comparison 16 and 32.PNG These are the menus where you can find them and use what you like. FITS or CPA.PNG Refine your selection here. FITS saving.PNG Natura...

The actual process is automatic: Point your telescope to your EL panel and use Observatory > capture calibration images > flats . Tell PRISM what you want to do and it will figure the rest out. The process is similar in automatic observation but using sky flats instead.

Hi Steve and thanks for joining us, it was a pleasure chatting with you at NEAF

Can you send us sample images with good FTIS headers so we can open them and inspect what's going on?

Thanks

very good points wolf, the problem cannot possibly generate from PRISM as I pointed out and you found out. About the port issue, I will investigate further and report back.

Hi all We are introducing the new PRISM unlock dongle, a thumbdrive equipped with a processor on board to unlock computer in any computer you choose to install it on. This is the perfect solution for people with offline computer or no access to the internet. We will load your license onto this devic...

The image to the left is exactly where you set you dithering for the automatic observation and the one to the right is where you set it for the manual obs. PRISM waits for the exposure to end, dither ( intentionally introduce and error) then wait for the star to settle and resume imaging. "only if n...

Please post a video here so we can see what is going on. I have had an EQ8 myself on NM and operate it remotely for months and have not seen this behavior.

I must interject here, The only thing prism is doing is tell ASCOM what to do, that is it. If you wish to slew to M20, PRISM will tell ASCOM to slew to those coordinates and EQASCOM takes it from there. PRISM does not talk directly to your mount, it does not talk directly to ANY mount for that matte...

Thanks Kevin, we are testing this as I have a new operational observatory today. I will keep everyone posted.

Taking flats is an automatic process to capture the best ones for your system. Knowing what your linear range is, PRISM will capture them for you automatically. it is under Observatory > Capture calibration images > Flat. The automatic observation has the same mechanism but is designed to take sky f...

Very good questions indeed. One way to do this is to install PRISM on a computer that does have internet then copy Prism.exe and Prism.enu to the offline computer and just replace the files in C:\Program Files (x86)\PRiSM v10. As for the C vs F, Not that I know of. I have to ask, is this really that...

I agree wtih Vikrant, I used an HDX110 (EQ8) for months with great results using EQMOD and an EQDIR cable. If you need further help, just let us know.

good morning Hank

Can you please share your findings with us? I am sure someone else can benefit. Also, I have my new observatory up and running and I can make demos on how PRISM can interact with Paramounts. So far, no issue.

Thanks

Which I have done. Since I plate solve the images, I get the focal length etc. which I have entered manually. It's just that this took me a while to figure out. Presumably the developer was trying to eliminate that energy barrier with the "get data from plate-solved image," so it would be nice if i...

Having a 1 mm difference falls within the centroid and star catalog uncertainty

, it is nothing to worry about to be honest.

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I expected a little more movement in this thread but I guess spectro takes the crown. Our new observatory is nearing completion and I think that a lot more video tutorials will be produced.

Hi Russ You can execute a script at the end of the automatic observation to do just that, we offer a way to do this at the end of the session. However, our roadmap includes a few very exciting features to make the user experience that much greater. In the meantime, you can just use the flat field ac...

understood, I have your images and we will examine this. One thing to note: you could very easily enter this information about your imaging train manually when you setup the cameras, focal length being of cardinal importance here.

and no, having an OSC or mono has no effect on this, it is simply trying to say that the fits headers and the equipment you're trying to set are different. If they are the same and you get the error anyway, it would be a bug that needs to be resolved.

Alright, that explains PRISM's behavior then. It is trying to tell you that the image was taken from a camera that is different than the model/make you are setting up. I am assuming this is the case?

Good morning Please accept my apologies, I am having major issues with this forum's notification system. We are doing something about this and will be greatly improved very soon. First, I have successfully plate solved all three just now and PRISM finds over 20,000 stars in the images. What is the s...

I can't seem to log in to the "clients" area, getting a message that I'm awaiting approval by the website manager. I paid for Prism on 1 April 2018, and received my license key in an email from Hamza that day. Good morning Sorry about he delay. Between preparing and traveling to NEAIC/NEAF, it has ...

I will reach out by email tonight to arrange a one one one to resolve this issue.

Brent I need some screenshots from the hardware setup window where you tell PRISM about the parameters of your focuser when you choose it. Also, when you select the driver and then press the properties button in the ASCOM selector, I'd like a screenshot of that as well. I think the driver itself is ...

Hi, Please upload these files to a file sharing system and give me a link please. I will try on my end.

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Wayne, you are correct and I fixed it. It does work now.

Yes, the catalog installer from Andy Galasso can find the catalog files as long as you point the software to it them. For the plugin, please use this link : http://dl.hyperion-astronomy.com/Astrom ... 017%29.exe

Hello Wayne,

Yes you can, every PRISM license comes with 2 activations. The idea is that one is for a capture and the other for a processing computer.

that was just for you Hank

and you are very welcome. Please ask all the questions you want and I will try my best to answer them.

You are very welcome, now share your results with us

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